Grace M. Thistle


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John W. Cramer/Creamer

Grace M. Thistle

  • Born: 26 May 1883, Nebraska
  • Marriage: John W. Cramer/Creamer circa 1902 in Nebraska
  • Died: Oct 1963 at age 80

bullet  General Notes:

The 1900 Federal Census for Broken Bow, Custer Co., Nebraska, District 61, page 47B records Grace M. Thistle (May 1883 - Nebraska/England/Wisconsin) as a house keeper for John (July 1864 - Wisconsin/PA/NY) and Jesse M. (Dec 1868 - Wisconsin/Michigan/Michigan) Dietz and family. Grace appears to be the daughter of William T. and Sarah E. Thistle who are also living in Broken Bow at this time: Westerville, Custer Co., Nebraska, District 75, page 194A records William T. (Feb 1852 - New Foundland / New Foundland / New Foundland) and Sarah E. (Feb 1856 - Wisconsin / Connecticut / Massachusetts) Thistle with children Nettie M. (May 1880 - Nebraska), George H. (June 1881 - Nebraska), and Ray (Feb 1894 - Nebraska). William is a farmer who immigrated in 1871. William and Sarah have been married for 24 years and have had 6 children, 5 of whom are still living.

See general notes on her husband, John Cramer, for 1910 census facts. This census records John married to a Mary E. Cramer and living in Bellingham, Whatcom Co., Washington. The name Mary could be an error and it is actually Grace. John and Grace did get a divorce and Grace remarried to a Charles Coburn, but no idea of the timeframe for that.

The 1885 Nebraska State Census for Westewille Township, Custer Co., Nebraska records William Thrith (sic) with wife Emma and children Marant, George, and Mande. William is listed as from Connecticutt and Emma from Wisconsin ... names / dates / places are possible transcription / recording errors and this confirms the family of Grace Thistle. An 1886 Farmers & Ranchers list from Custer County Nebraska records William T. Thistle in Westerville Township ... there is no one else listed who remotely resembles the surname Thrith thus giving credence to the 1885 record being that of the family of Grace Thistle.

bullet  Research Notes:

Several emails from Dave Borg fill in information on Grace Thistle. One such:
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:00:38 -0800
Subject: RE: Looking for more information about Dorothy Leota Cramer/Creamer

Bo , Well your reply did make it ! I'll try to go through this in order just so that I don't lose track of anything. First I'm not Trish , that's my wife, she has the Ancestry account. I'm Dave and I'm not a Cramer or from Nebraska. My connection is Grace from her next marriage. I haven't looked at you're links yet, I just got home and thought that I should get back to you as soon as possible. I know of Dwight and Dorothy from my childhood, they were friends (relatives) of my mom. I was only a child so I really don't remember them. I have Dwight's obit. I also have Grace's and it shows Dwight and Dorothy as (some of) her children. We have much the same info, 1900 single, servant. 1902 Dorothy Cramer born to Grace and John. 1917 her son William is born here in Washington to her next husband. I didn't know about Mary E., I also didn't know that John was out here. My current problem is that I can't document Grace to William T. and Sarah Emma, I know lots about all three of them both forward and back and lots of good evidence that says she is their daughter, just no document. I am going to look at your website now and will get back to you in a day or two. Thanks a lot for getting back to me. If you think there might be anything I could tell you or add just ask. Could you reply to <> ? then we don't have to go through my wife's e-mail. I hope that all made sense it sound scattered to me. Thanks again. Dave

From Dave's emails, with census analysis, it appears that Grace married Charles Coburn: The1920 Federal Census for Bellingham Ward 2, Whatcom Co., Washington, District 220, page 129B, dated January 6, 1920 records Grace Coburn (38 - Nebraska/England/Wisconsin) with her son William Coburn (2 0/12 - Washington) and husband Charles Coburn (47 - Mass/NH/NH) living at 2115 Queen Street. Charles is a Longshoreman working on the wharfs.
The1930 Federal Census for Bellingham, Whatcom Co., Washington, District 16 records the widow Grace Coburn (48 - Nebraska/England/Wisconsin) with her son William A. Coburn (12 - Washington/England/Nebraska) and daughter Francis Coburn (9 - Washington/England/Nebraska) living at 1516 Ellis Street. Grace is working as a Private Nurse.

Interesting that in 1910 there is a Coburn family living in Whatcon Co., Washington The 1910 Federal Census for Blaine, Ward 1, Whatcom Co., Washington, District 331, page 44A, dated April 16, 1910 records a divorced Etta T. Coburn (34 - Canada/Canada/Canada) with her daughter Grace D. Coburn (9 - Mass/NH/Canada) living on 4th Street. Etta immigrated in 1892.
and while Charles Coburn is not found in the 1910 census he is found, with Etta, in the 1900 census: The 1900 Federal Census for Mansfield, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, District 168, page , dated 1900 records Charles H. (June 1874 - NH/NH/NH) and Hattie F. (Mar 1876 - Canada/Canada/Canada) Coburn. Charles and Hattie have been married for 2 years and have had no children. Charles is an Engine Wiper for the R.R. Hattie immigrated in 1894.
To continue: Apparently Etta Coburn remarries but soon dies ... The 1920 Federal Census for Blaine, Ward 2, Whatcom Co., Washington, District 245, page 27B, dated January 14, 1920 records Grace D. Coburn (19 - Mass/US/Canada) with her widowed step father Eugene King (67 - Wisconsin/NY/NY) living on Martin Street. Eugene is a laborer of Odd Jobs.


Grace married John W. Cramer/Creamer, son of Levier Bitner Cramer/Creamer and Lucinda Hartman, circa 1902 in Nebraska. (John W. Cramer/Creamer was born on 29 Sep 1879 in Putnam Co., Illinois and died on 1 Jun 1934 in Broken Bow, Custer Co., Nebraska.)

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