Edmund Joseph Harvey 123,124
- Born: 1 Jun 1887, Larne Poor Union, Glenariff, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, UK
- Marriage: Mary McDonald about 1913
- Died: 21 Feb 1967, Manhattan, New York, New York at age 79
- Buried: Calvary Cemetery, 49-02 Laurel Hill Blvd, Woodside, NY 11377
The 1915 New York State Census for New York Co., New York, Election District 32, Assembly District 21, page 41, dated June 1, 1915 records Edward (26 - Ireland) and Mary (25 - Ireland) Harvey with their son James D. Harvey (240 days old) living at 501 West 136th Street near the corner with Amsterdam Avenue. Edward has been in this country for 6 years while Mary for 5 years both are aliens. Edward is a Subway Guard. This address is next to 1504 Amsterdam Avenue listed in the WWI Draft Registration below.
The WWI Draft Registration Card for Edmund Harvey records his date of birth as June 1, 1888 in Ireland. He is living with his wife and children at 1504 Amsterdam Avenue. His physical description is medium height and build with blue eyes and brown hair. There is a second draft registration card taken Sept 12, 1918 that clearly records employment as a Switchman on the Interborough R. T. [Rapid Transit] and his wife as Mary.
Edmund Joseph Harvey is living in a building at 1504 Amsterdam Avenue in New York City in the 1920 and 1930 census. The 1920 Federal Census for Manhattan, New York, New York (ED# 975, page 165A) records Edmund (31), Mary (30), James, (5), and Edmund (3). This census lists his arrival in The United States in 1909, Naturalization in 1915, and employment as a Switchman for the BRT [Rapid Transit?]. Mary is listed as arriving in 1910 and Naturalized in 1915.
The 1925 New York State Census for New York Co., New York, Election District 37, Assembly District 13, page 17, dated June 1, 1925 records Edmond (37 - Ireland) and Mary (37 - Ireland) Harvey with their children James Harvey (10 - NY), Edmond (7 - NY), and Rose (3 - NY) living at 1504 Amsterdam Avenue. Edward has been in this country for 15 years as has Mary. Citizenship was acquired in March 1915. Edmond is working as a Motorman.
The 1930 Census for Manhattan, New York, New York, ED# 878 page 36B records Edmund (42) and Mary (40) Harvey with children James (15), Edmund Jr. (13), and Rose (9) living in a building at 1504 Amsterdam Avenue. Edmund is listed as from Northern Ireland while Mary from The Irish Free State and they have been married 17 years. They both immigrated in 1909.
See general notes on his son, Edmond F. Harvey, for 1940 census facts.
The WWII Draft Registration Card (for men born on or after April 28, 1877 and on or before February 16, 1897) for Edmond Joseph Harvey dated April 25, 1942 lists his date of birth as June 1, 1887 in Tamolaght [Tamlaght, County Antrim], Ireland. He is living at 3406 Tibbett Ave., Bronx, NY and reports that he will be the one who always knows his address. He is working as a Motorman for I. R. T. and his physical description is 5' 8 1/2", 185 lbs with blue eyes, gray hair and ruddy complexion. He signs his form Edmund Harvey.
The naturalization petition for Edmund Harvey is listed as July 21, 1915 Volume# 201, page# 1. His residence is listed as 1422 Amsterdam Avenue.
Ellis Island records indicates the arrival of Edmund F. Harvey in New York, New York on April 26, 1909 at the age of 22, single, aboard the S.S. Caledonia leaving Londondary on April 17, 1909. Edmund Harvey is listed as Edward Harvey on the emigration ship's manifest where he lists his nearest relative as Edmund Harvey of Glenaraff (Glenariff), Antrim, Ireland. The manifest indicates that "Edward" is coming to join his sister, Mary Harvey, who paid his passage and is living at 220 West 129th Street in New York. He is listed as 5' 7", fair complexion, fair hair, and blue eyes. It is of interest that Mary Harvey (28) can be found in the 1910 Federal Census, New York, New York, 12-Ward Manhattan, District 545, page 230A as a servant in the household of William and Lucy Ray at 220 West 129th Street. Also in the household as a servant is Alice Harvey (30). Alice and Mary are probably sisters, both born in Ireland.
Ellis Island records also have Edmund Harvey with his arrival in New York.
This Edmund marries a Rose and has children as indicated below in census records. His WWI Draft Registration records his date of birth as December 22, 1883. His residence is 958 West 49th Street in New York. The WWII Draft Registration Card (for men born on or after April 28, 1877 and on or before February 16, 1897) for Edmond Harvey dated April 25, 1942 lists his date of birth as December 21, 1887 in County Antrim, Ireland. He is living with his wife, Mary C. Harvey, at 3415 Corlear Ave., Bronx, NY. He is working for Consolidated Telegraph & Electric Subway Company and his physical description is 6', 200 lbs with blue eyes, gray hair and light complexion. He signs his form Edmund Harvey.
There is a birth record for an Edmund Harvey [probably our Edmund's cousin]
Registration District: Ballycastle
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1884
Census records indicate that Edmund arrived in New York in 1909 and petitioned for naturalization in 1915. The 1910 Federal Census for New York City, 22 Ward, Manhattan Boro, District 1344 records an Edmund Harvey, employed as a laborer on a railroad, boarder, 23 years old arriving in New York in 1909 and living at 458 West 49th Street. It is of interest that another Edmund Harvey, 24, and arriving in New York in 1906 lives at the same residence. That census taken on April 23, 1910 records the following household: James O'Conner (35-head of household), Mary O'Connor (31-wife), Thomas (1 8/12-son), Edmund Harvey (24 - brother-in-law), Edmund Harvey (22 - cousin). James and Mary have been married 2 1/2 years. All adults were born in Ireland and immigrated in 1903, 1906, 1906, and 1909 respectively.
Ellis Island Immigration records information on the ship Caledonia as follows:
Port of departure: Londonderry, Ulster, Ireland, UK
Caledonia: Built by D. & W. Henderson & Company, Glasgow, Scotland, 1904. 9,223 gross tons; 500 (bp) feet long; 58 feet wide. Steam triple expansion engines, twin screw. Service speed 16 knots. 1,428 passengers (383 first class, 216 second class, 829 third class). Built for Anchor Line, British flag, in 1904 and named Caledonia. Glasgow-New York service. Used as a British troopship 1914-16. Torpedoed and sunk by a German submarine off Malta in 1916.
Below is a letter to Ed Harvey of Blacksburg, VA
Jan. 17, 2004
The last two pages in this letter are some documented facts from census and Ellis Island records concerning your great grand father, Edmund Joseph Harvey. Mary Lou told me you were very interested so I did some research and after interpreting those facts I have made the following conclusions beyond what we already have discussed:
1)At his arrival in New York on April 26, 1909, Edmund Jospeh Harvey had a sister living in New York by the name of Mary Harvey. She paid for his passage. She was living at 220 West 129th Street in Manhattan (from Ellis Island Records). Edmund was 5' 7" with fair complexion, fair hair, and blue eyes. He lists his nearest relative as Edmund Harvey from Glenaraff [Glenariff], Antrim, Ireland. This is probably his father.
2)Edmund's sister, Mary Harvey, has a sister, Alice. They are living as servants at 220 West 129th Street (from 1910 census records). It appears to me that they are sisters because they are both from Antrim. They are both born around 1880 and Ellis Island Records list Alice Harvey as first arriving in New York in 1900 with intent to live in Chicago. Alice Harvey arrives in New York once again in 1906. This appears to be the same person in that she arrives with Mary Harvey and they list a former residence as Chicago. Why Chicago is another story … the point is we seem to have siblings Alice (born ca 1880), Mary (born ca 1882), and Edmund (born ca 1887) whose father is Edmund and lived in Glenariff, Antrim, Ireland.
3)Your Edmund had a cousin, Edmund Harvey (born ca. 1885), that arrived in New York in 1906. He had a sister, Mary (born ca 1879), who followed her brother to America in 1907 and married James O'Connor. This Edmund and Mary Harvey are from Ballemella, Antrim, Ireland and their father is Pat Harvey. The "Ballemella" is a guess from the handwriting on the Ellis Island Records, but when I check the map of Antrim I find several Bally ??? somethings around the village (town) of Glenariff.
It is quite possible that your Edmund's father was Edmund Harvey and had an Uncle or brother named Patrick Harvey. To find out more I think you must use the above information to search Irish records that I have been unable to find. I have found several web sites that claim to have access to local government and church records in Antrim, Ireland.
I think the first thing to do would be to get copies of the marriage and death certificates for your great grand father, Edmund Harvey. Check out <http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records> for how this is done. Notice New York City records are different than New York State Records. My guess is he was married in New York City. You said that you need to find out about when and where he died. The only Edmund/Edmond/Edward Harvey I have found who was born ca 1888, died in 1967 in New Jersey. I am sure he is not the right one. For marriage records for New York City (1866-1929) contact Municipal Archives, 31 Chambers Street, Room 103, New York, N.Y. 10007 (212) 788-8580. I have attached a PDF form that you can fill out and send via mail and have included some instructions on the next page of this letter. Edmund and Mary Harvey appear to have been married about 1913 in Manhattan. You may want to add $2 to the search for an additional year. I am not sure about the "Borough" .. my guess is Manhattan … is that a "Borough"? I might suggest that you get a copy of the marriage certificate for "cousin" Edmund Harvey while you are at it. He was married about 1918 probably in Manhattan as well. That might give you additional clues to the Harvey family of Antrim, Ireland.
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The 1930 Federal Census (Apr 5), New York, New York, Manhattan, District 876, page 251 (W.133rd St)
Edmund Harvey, 45, N. Ireland, 1906, Chauffer for Trucking Co.
Rose, 41-married in 1918, Irish Free State, 1911
John, 4 7/12
Robert, 3 4/12
Ellen, 1 7/12
The 1930 Federal Census (Apr 11), New York, New York, Manhattan, District 878
Edmund Harvey, 42, N. Ireland, 1909, Motorman for Rapid Transit.
Mary, 40 - married in 1913, Irish Free State, 1909
Edmund Jr., 13
The 1920 Federal Census, New York, New York, Manhattan, ED 975 (Amsterdam Ave)
Edmund Harvey, head, 31, Ireland, 1909, 1915
Mary, 30, Ireland, 1910, 1915
The 1920 Federal Census, New York, New York, Manhattan, ED 968 (W. 188th St)
Edmund Harvey, head, 35, Ireland, 1905, 1914
Rose, 27, Ireland, 1910, ????
The 1910 Federal Census, New York, New York, 12-Ward Manhattan, District 545
William Ray, head, 60.
Lucy, wife, 55
3 others - brother and sister-in-law with adopted daughter.
Alice Harvey, Servant, 30, Ireland, 1906, Cook.
Mary Harvey, Servant, 28, Ireland, 1909, Housework.
(living at 220 West 129th Street ….. see Ellis Island Records below)
The 1910 Federal Census, New York, New York, 22-Ward Manhattan, District 1344, W. 49th St, April 23, 1910
James O'Connor, head, 35, 1903, Ireland, Book Keeper at Cigar Co.
Mary, wife, 31, Ireland, 1906, married 2 ˝ years
Thomas, son, 1 8/12
Edmund Harvey, Brother-in-Law, 24, Ireland, 1906, Mate on Oil Boat.
Edmund Harvey#2, Boarder (Cousin is marked through), 23, Ireland, 1909, Laborer R.R.
[these two Edmunds are probably cousins]
Ellis Island Records:
Edmund Harvey 23Nov 11, 1906AntrimCaledonia friend Pat McDade in Greenpoint
(destination 33 Oakland Ave., Greenpoint, N.Y., home of Pat McDade)
Cross reference this with the 1910 census for James O'Connor household and 1907 Ellis Island Record below…
Edward Harvey 22Apr 26, 1909Antrim220 W 129 Stsister Mary HarveyCaledonia
Cross reference this with the 1910 census for William Ray household and 1906 Ellis Island Record below…
Mary Harvey 28Sept 29, 1907Antrim198 Huron Stbrother Edmund HarveyCalendonia
(nearest relative or friend: Pat Harvey - Ballemella [perhaps Ballinameela], Antrim, Ireland, destination Greenpoint)
Cross reference this with the 1910 census for James O'Connor household and conclude Mary Harvey O'Connor
Mary Harvey 27Oct 29, 1906Chicago/IrelandColumbia
(previously in Chicago in 1905 - going to join friend: John Daley - 154 10th Ave., N.Y.)
Alice Harvey 28Oct 29, 1906Chicago/IrelandColumbia
(previously in Chicago in 1905 - going to join friend: John Daley - 154 10th Ave., N.Y.)
Alice Harvey 24Sept 26, 1900AntrimChicagoFurnessia
(can not read who she is going to see - looks like going to 5330 Madison Ave.)
The date of death is based on a photograph of "Grandpa Harvey, dad and myself is dated January 1963" in a July 28, 2008 email from Jo Gosert [Joann Harvey].
Edmund Joseph Harvey
Registration District: Larne
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1887
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101061
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 575
Digital Folder Number: 4193975
Image Number: 00559
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Switchman on BRT (Brooklyn Rapid Transit) in 1920 Census/Motorman on Rapid Transit (1930).
Edmund married Mary McDonald, daughter of Martin McDonald and Mary Lee, about 1913. (Mary McDonald was born about 1890 in Carrowlustia, Calry, Sligo, Ireland, died on 7 May 1954 in Manhattan, New York, New York and was buried in Calvary Cemetery, 49-02 Laurel Hill Blvd, Woodside, NY 11377.)