George Cramer/Creamer

   Cause of his death was Tumor.

  General Notes:

The following website records cemetery records for George Cramer: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/zzcc/monroe.htm
MONROE WOODS FARM GRAVEYARD
LOWER ALLEN TWP., CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Cramer, Elizabeth d. 1835, age 13y, d/o George & Elizabeth Cramer Cramer
George d. 2-5-1853, age 63y
Since George is listed in the 1850 for Lower Allen (see below), this is most probably our George Cramer.
It [Gehr Family Graveyard/Monroe Family Graveyard] is located in Lower Allen Township, north on Lisburn Rd, left on Raven Hill Rd, on the left among some pines. The GPS location is N40 degrees, 10.916', by W 76 degrees, 55.840'.

George Cramer is repetedly named as the oldest son in estate papers of his father, Henry Cremer, Warrington Twp, York County Pennsylvania.

The 1850 Federal Census for Lower Allen, Cumberland Co., Pa. records on page 25 a George Cremer (born ca 1789), married to Elizabeth Cremer (born ca 1791), with children Andrew (born 1818-Mason), Obadiah (born ca 1827), David (born ca 1828), George, (born ca 1829), and Mary (born ca 1820). Later census records have Mary, George, and David living in Urbana, Ohio next to or near Samuel Cramer (see notes on children of George). Also, in the 1850 census, East Pennsboro, Cumberland Co., Samuel and Sarah A. (Goudy) Cremer and son George W. (born ca 1849) are living just a few miles from the George Cremer family above and next door to Sarah's parents, Samuel and Anna Goudy. This Samuel Cremer is a Stone Mason as is the probable brother of Andrew Cremer, described above. By following Samuel and family in later census records, most of the the George Cremer family members move to Ohio and are living with or near each other and 4 of the brothers and some family move to Nebraska around 1882 ... see notes on other family members for census facts.

The 1840 Federal Census for Allen Township, Cumberland Co., PA, page 120 records a George Creemer (sic) family: 2 males (10-15), 1 male (15-20),1 male (50-60), 2 female (20-30), 1 female (40-50). Listed next to George is the Henry Cremer family: 2 males (<5), 2 males (10-15), 1 male (40-50), 2 females (<5), 1 female (10-15), 1 female (20-30). Nearby is Elizabeth Geahr (alone).

1830 Paul Gehr b ca 1795 +/- 5 ... on one side of Paul is John Gehr and on the other are Geo Kreamer and Hy [Henry] Kreamer ... see research notes on George Cramer for 1800 & 1810 census facts.
The 1830 Federal Census for Lower Allen Township, Cumberland Co., PA records a Geo Kreamer (sic) family:
males 2 (< 5) [David & George], 2 (5-10) [Samuel & Obadiah], 2 (10-15) [Andrew & Henry], 1 (15-20) [Paul], b (20-30), b (30-40), 1 (40-50), b (50-60), b (60-70), b (70-80), b (80-90), b (90-100), b (> 100), ... females b (< 5), 1 (5-10) [Elizabeth], 1 (10-15) [???], 1 (15-20) [Mary], b (20-30), b (30-40), 1 (40-50), b (50-60), b (60-70), b (70-80), b (80-90), b (90-100), b (> 100). Listed next to George is the Hy [Henry] Kreamer (sic) family:
males 1 (< 5), 2 (5-10), b (10-15), 1 (15-20), b (20-30), 1 (30-40) [Henry], b (40-50), b (50-60), b (60-70), b (70-80), b (80-90), b (90-100), b (> 100), ... females b (< 5), b (5-10) , b (10-15), 1 (15-20), b (20-30), 1 (30-40), b (40-50), b (50-60), b (60-70), b (70-80), b (80-90), b (90-100), b (> 100).

The 1820 Federal Census for Allen Township, Cumberland Co., PA records a George Creemer (sic) family: 3 males (< 10) [Paulus, Andrew, & Henry], 1 male (16-26) [unkown, possibly a brother of George: Henry], 1 male (> 45) [George], 2 female (< 10) [Mary & unkown: Sarah? see research notes on George Cramer for Trinty Reformed Church Birth records], 1 female (26-45) [Elizabeth], 1 female (> 45) [George's Step Mother?]. Nearby is the Paul Gehr family.

  Research Notes:

MONROE WOODS FARM GRAVEYARD
LOWER ALLEN TWP., CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA at
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/zzcc/monroe.htm>Cramer, Elizabeth d. 1835, age 13y, d/o George & Elizabeth Cramer
Cramer, George d. 2-5-1853, age 63y

Gher, Paul d. 3-7-1895, age 48y 8m 10d [This date must be transcribed incorrectly, possibly a worn tombstone. Assuming a minor transcription error, the year is possibly 1835 when census records are taken into consideration. Also the surname Gher is incorrect - it should be Gehr or Geer]
Gher, Elizabeth d. 12-21-1851, age 61y 7m 13d, w/o Paul Gher
Gher, Gideon d. 1825, b. 1825, s/o P. & E. Gher
Gher, John d. 4-20-1830, age 16y 4m, s/o Paul & Elizabeth Gher
Gher, Levi d. 1831, b. 1831, age 16y 4m ????? , s/o P. & E. Gher
Gher, ------ d. 3-00-1840, age 22y, s/o P. & E. Gher
Gher, Paul d. 5-00-1840, age 21y, s/o P. & E. Gher; d. May \endash 1840

Walker, Isaac d. 10-12-1839, age 49y 3m 21d
Walker, John d. 11-3-1847, age 20y 1m 15d

This is clearly our George Cramer/Creamer and the census records from 1820, 1830, 1840, and 1850 show the George Cramer/Creamer family living nearby the Paul Gher/Gehr family in Lower Allen Township.

Additionally:
Vitals: Deaths: Cumberland County Death Records, 1852-1855 COMPLIED BY VI P. LIMRIC, (vi35@epix.net) Source: Cumberland Co. Court House & Pa. State Archives, Hbg. Pa.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/cumberland/vitals/dr185255.txt
George CRAMER, white, male, 64 yrs. Father: George Cramer. Occupation: Farmer. Born: York Co. PA. Wife: Elizabeth Cramer. Died: 5 Feb 1853, tumers [tumors/cancer], Lower Allen Twp. Cumb Co. Buried: Strong's Private Burial Ground. Person returning certificate: Ubadiah [Obadiah] Cramer [George's son], Lower Allen Twp. Date of certificate: 4 Feb 1853.
[The "Father: George Cramer" is a bit questionable ... does it mean that this George is a father, to Obadiah, or that this George's father is George? This researcher believes the former.]


Henry Cremer of York Co., PA is the subject of the census study below. At Henry Cramer's death, John Myer and Abraham Beyers are listed as adjoining land owners. Finding the subject of this study is somewhat difficult in that Henry Cremer/Cramer/Kremer/Creamer appears many times in York Co.

Finding known neighbors of our subject could help determine the correct Henry Cremer.
1810 finds John Myers and Abraham Beyer living next or near our subject. Also nearby is Jacob Kline. I will thus try to follow these people through different census years in order to establish the correct census record.

Henry Cremer, John Myers, Abraham Beyers, and Jacob Kline appear near each other through several census years. The 1800 census below shows such a connection (familes) in Manheim Township of York Co. but they are not the correct subjects. This is described here only to show the difficulty in finding our particular subject. Below this Manheim study is the correct subjects of our study.
1800 Manheim, York Co., PA
Henry Cremer (only 11 columns are listed in this census record)
<10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ <10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ free persons slaves
1 b b 1 b 1 b b 1 b b b
Next door is Jacob Kline
1 2 b 1 b 2 b b 1 b b b
THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT HENRY CRAMER!!!
from estate records:
John Myer / in the 1812 estate record for Henry Cremer, John is listed as owner of "Adjoining lands" to land owned by Henry Cremer
near by is Abraham Byers / in the 1812 estate record for Henry Cremer, an Abraham Boyer is listed as owner of "Adjoining lands" to land owned by Henry Cremer ... Byers/Boyer/Beyers - probably the same person.

1800 Warrington, York Co., PA
Henry Kremer (only 11 columns are listed in this census record)
<10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ <10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ free persons slaves
3 b b b 1 3 1 b 1 b b b
A few doors away is John Myers
1 2 b 1 1 3 1 3 1 b b b
A few doors away is Abraham Beyers
2 b 1 1 b 1 b 1 2 b b b
A few doors away is Jacob Kline
1 b b 1 b b b b 1 b b b

1810 Warrington, York Co., PA
Henry Cremer (only 11 columns are listed in this census record)
<10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ <10 10-15 16-25 26-44 45+ free persons slaves
b 1 1 b 1 3 1 2 1 b b
Next door is John Myer
1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 b b
A few doors away is Abraham Byers
3 b 1 1 b 2 1 b 1 b b
A few doors down is Jacob Cline
1 1 b b 1 b b b 1 1 b

Proximity tells me that the above Henry Cramer is the Henry Cramer, probable father of my George. The 1800 census records 3 boys under age 10 ... that would be my George and his brother Henry ... another who died?
Then the 1810 census records 1 boy (10-15) and 1 boy (16-25). The (10-15) would be Henry and the (16-25) would be George ... Right?!?. But what about your 1780 birth date ... could that be an error? My dates for my George come from the 1850 census record ... which is consistent with the MONROE WOODS FARM GRAVEYARD
LOWER ALLEN TWP., CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA ...
Also supporting this George Cramer as 'my George" is the fact that Paul and Elizabeth Gehr with children are buried in the same graveyard. By the way ... if you look at the 1850 census I think it is reasonable to conclude the "correct" Elizabeth Gehr is living next to "my George Cramer" ...




From ancestry.com database: York County, Pennsylvania, 1801-53: Trinity Reformed Church
(These could be children of MY George and Elizabeth)
1) George Creiner Father Baptism
George Creiner Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Creiner Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Creiner Mother Baptism
Maria Creiner Baptized Baptism
Maria Creiner Born Birth

2) Georg Cremer Father Baptism
Georg Cremer Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Cremer Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Cremer Mother Baptism
Paulus Cremer Baptized Baptism
Paulus Cremer Born Birth

3) George Kremer Father Baptism
Elisabeth Kremer Mother Baptism
Andreas Kremer Baptized Baptism
Andreas Cramer Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Cramer Sponsor Baptism
Andreas Kremer Born Birth

4) Georg Kraemer Father Baptism
Georg Kraemer Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Kraemer Sponsor Baptism
Elisabeth Kraemer Mother Baptism
Sarah Kraemer Baptized Baptism
Sarah Kraemer Born Birth

  Medical Notes:

Registration of Deaths - Cumberland Co., PA from www.ancestry.com:
Pennsylvania, Deaths, 1852-1854 [image]
Name of Deceased: George Cramer
Age: 64 [white / male]
Name of Father: George Cramer
Name of Mother: [blank]
Place of Birth: Yourk Co., PA
Occupation: Farmer
Name of Wife: Elizabeth Cramer
Date of Death: Feby 5, 1853
Cause of Death: Tumor
Place of Death: Lower Allen Tp, Cumbd Co.
Burial Ground: Strings Private Burial Ground
Informant: Obediah Cramer [son]
Date of Certificate: Feby 14, 1853
Signature of Register: William McFeely

  Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Farmer, 1850, Cumberland Co., PA.

George married Elizabeth. (Elizabeth was born about 1789 in Pennsylvania and died on 16 Dec 1869 in Urbana, Champaign Co., Ohio.)